Patricia Refo , partner at Snell & Wilmer, has achieved more than most lawyers ever will. Trish has received countless professional recognition and awards, established herself as a first-class commercial litigation lawyer and she’s the current president of the American Bar Association.

In today’s episode of The Rankings Podcast, Trish tells us all about her journey from aspiring newspaper editor to president of the ABA, and shares with us her views on how the legal industry has had to adapt throughout the pandemic and what she thinks some of the lasting impacts will be.